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Here is the thing. I'm a 15 year old kid and I'm thinking about getting a motorcycle when I am 16. I was thinking about a Yamaha R6. Now I know I'm going to get bashed by this. The thing is, I'm not so "rich" as other people. If I were to buy a Ninja 250r, I wouldn't have enough money to buy a r6 when I'm "ready" for it. I know the R6 can send you into an object in a matter of seconds and stuff like that. I'm planning to take a Motorcycle Safety Course before getting the bike. I heard 50/50 so far. Trust me, I'm not those immature teens looking for trouble. I know when to respect things. So my question is, if I respect the bike the way it need be, then can I perhaps start out on one?
So I'm guessing I should get a ninja...would the 650r work out? Or is it the same story as with the r6? I understand the problems with starting out on such a big bike. One more question for the sake of wondering, how would a r6 or cbr600rr work out with someone was afraid to use all the power on the bike and took it super slow?
P.S. As I am talking about buying "the bike" I mean as in buying a used one, not a brand new one. And I don't mean I'm that poor to not afford the insurance and gear but I need to work with the money more efficiently.
Answer
Here is the thing bud, you are looking ahead too far.
If you cannot afford 1800-3000 for a used Ninja 250R on top of the cost of the 11,000 dollar R6 then you dont need an R6 to begin with.
And anyways, you have to go one step at a time and be logical. You need around about 1000 dollars for full gear + helmet and the 300 dollar msf course. And if you are not one of those teens that will inevitably pull the throttle, then you will surely be prepared to buy all the gear.
The cool thing is that a 250r has more acceleration and way more fun than a mustang GT. And if you think that as a 17-18 year old (see below) you cannot honestly think that you will grow out of your mustang GT in a couple months to move up to a ferrari enzo of an R6, then you are sorely mistaken.
Even if you grew out of the 250r after 2 riding seasons and you bought it used, then you would not lose any money
Additionally, it is my firm belief that as a new driver then you need more road experience than the one year of a permit before you take the plunge going around on a motorcycle. You need to make it to your full non-provisional licence before it is good for you to to get out there on a motorcycle. On a motorcycle, everybody is out there to kill you, so it is important to learn to drive defensively and look out for morons on the road without your parents with you.
Now, this is disregarding the benifits of a 250r totally.
I know you think, as the 15 year old you are, that the 250r is slow. You would be mistaken. It is fast enough to out accelerate and out turn a mustang gt like i said, and it is 100% capable on the highways. It is capable to pop a wheelie if you try, but not too powerful that you can flip it out if you accidentally slip too much throttle in 3rd gear.
Additionally, the cost is much more realistic for WHEN you drop the bike. You will drop it, frame sliders and farings are a whole lot cheaper on a 250r.
And the 250r still looks boss, so only wankers who wouldnt ride a bike would make fun of it or anything.
Oh, and the 250r is cheaper to service, gets 60+ mpg, lasts longer without expensive repairs, and is easier to upgrade and personalize to fit you best, which is better than starting expensive and not being able to afford any upgrades (or gas)
All and all, it makes more sense to get the 250r, regardless of when you think you might 'grow out of it.'
Play things as they go, there is no reason you cannot start with a 250r. period.
Good luck, be smart.
not even good intent can make you better at juggling chainsaws, so you had better start with the pins. You cant just be careful, they are still freaking chain saws.
Hope this helps you make a smart decision
EDIT: No, a 650r would not really be any better, but it is a better next step from the 250r before an all out race-style bike like the R6
A 650r has the more upright seating position, which is good, but it still has more than enough power than people should start with because it still can flip out with a sudden jerk. It is harder to find these used anyways.
In response to the wondering question, if you are even a little nervous about one aspect of a vehicle, then your driving gets worse and you are more likely to make a different mistake, or even a throttle mistake because you are more twitchy and less controlled on it.
That is another reason you should get a 250, you dont want to be totally afraid of your bike, you want the fun factor for a learning environment. And, when you get used to the ninja, then you can push it, even on regular roads. Making it EVEN more fun to ride. You can never push an r6 or cbr600rr or 650r on the road. You want to earn the knee down and other terrifyingly fun things on something that will not kill you while you try to learn because you made a 1 degree change in the throttle.
You dont or simply cant lose money on a used 250r, because they are worth 2-3000 dollars all year round with all mileage. So, you have no reason to say you want to be 'more efficient'. Unless somebody talks you out of your money, you cannot go wrong.
Hope this helps again and some more.
Here is the thing bud, you are looking ahead too far.
If you cannot afford 1800-3000 for a used Ninja 250R on top of the cost of the 11,000 dollar R6 then you dont need an R6 to begin with.
And anyways, you have to go one step at a time and be logical. You need around about 1000 dollars for full gear + helmet and the 300 dollar msf course. And if you are not one of those teens that will inevitably pull the throttle, then you will surely be prepared to buy all the gear.
The cool thing is that a 250r has more acceleration and way more fun than a mustang GT. And if you think that as a 17-18 year old (see below) you cannot honestly think that you will grow out of your mustang GT in a couple months to move up to a ferrari enzo of an R6, then you are sorely mistaken.
Even if you grew out of the 250r after 2 riding seasons and you bought it used, then you would not lose any money
Additionally, it is my firm belief that as a new driver then you need more road experience than the one year of a permit before you take the plunge going around on a motorcycle. You need to make it to your full non-provisional licence before it is good for you to to get out there on a motorcycle. On a motorcycle, everybody is out there to kill you, so it is important to learn to drive defensively and look out for morons on the road without your parents with you.
Now, this is disregarding the benifits of a 250r totally.
I know you think, as the 15 year old you are, that the 250r is slow. You would be mistaken. It is fast enough to out accelerate and out turn a mustang gt like i said, and it is 100% capable on the highways. It is capable to pop a wheelie if you try, but not too powerful that you can flip it out if you accidentally slip too much throttle in 3rd gear.
Additionally, the cost is much more realistic for WHEN you drop the bike. You will drop it, frame sliders and farings are a whole lot cheaper on a 250r.
And the 250r still looks boss, so only wankers who wouldnt ride a bike would make fun of it or anything.
Oh, and the 250r is cheaper to service, gets 60+ mpg, lasts longer without expensive repairs, and is easier to upgrade and personalize to fit you best, which is better than starting expensive and not being able to afford any upgrades (or gas)
All and all, it makes more sense to get the 250r, regardless of when you think you might 'grow out of it.'
Play things as they go, there is no reason you cannot start with a 250r. period.
Good luck, be smart.
not even good intent can make you better at juggling chainsaws, so you had better start with the pins. You cant just be careful, they are still freaking chain saws.
Hope this helps you make a smart decision
EDIT: No, a 650r would not really be any better, but it is a better next step from the 250r before an all out race-style bike like the R6
A 650r has the more upright seating position, which is good, but it still has more than enough power than people should start with because it still can flip out with a sudden jerk. It is harder to find these used anyways.
In response to the wondering question, if you are even a little nervous about one aspect of a vehicle, then your driving gets worse and you are more likely to make a different mistake, or even a throttle mistake because you are more twitchy and less controlled on it.
That is another reason you should get a 250, you dont want to be totally afraid of your bike, you want the fun factor for a learning environment. And, when you get used to the ninja, then you can push it, even on regular roads. Making it EVEN more fun to ride. You can never push an r6 or cbr600rr or 650r on the road. You want to earn the knee down and other terrifyingly fun things on something that will not kill you while you try to learn because you made a 1 degree change in the throttle.
You dont or simply cant lose money on a used 250r, because they are worth 2-3000 dollars all year round with all mileage. So, you have no reason to say you want to be 'more efficient'. Unless somebody talks you out of your money, you cannot go wrong.
Hope this helps again and some more.
16 year old Starter bike?
QUESTIONS
I would like to spend about $1000 dollars for a bike but would be ok with a little more if its necessary. I want a sporty bike but i don't know how to ride so something that is good to learn on at the same time. nothing to fast that will make it hard not to get myself killed.
Tell me if I need to spend more money or if i'm thinking about my first bike the wrong way. I am 16 and my parents trust me and i am generally a smart responsible kid if that effects your choice.
thanks for any help
Answer
My first bike was a 1983 Honda Nighthawk CB650
Its a great starter bike, it was also the very first time I have ever even rode and I was able to pick it up pretty quickly with this bike. I only paid 900 but there was a couple issues
My first bike was a 1983 Honda Nighthawk CB650
Its a great starter bike, it was also the very first time I have ever even rode and I was able to pick it up pretty quickly with this bike. I only paid 900 but there was a couple issues
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