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it depends ir u buy a brand new bike, or a second hand bike!
then are u buy a 2 or a 4 stroke bike!
Brand New Prices (4 stroke/"thumpers)
50cc 4 stroke bikes will run u a good 500$-$1000
80-85 4 strokes bike run $1200-$2500
100cc- 4 strokes will run $2500-$3200
250cc-950cc 4 strokes will run $5000-$15000
Nrand New Prices (2 stroke)
50cc 2 stroke (or pit bikes) run $2500-$3000
80-85cc 2 stroke run $2000-$3500
125cc 2 stroke run $3500-$5000
250cc run anyware from $4500-$7000
second hand bikes:
80cc-85cc 4 strokes $500-$1200
100cc-125cc 4 strokes $1000-$1500
250cc-950cc 4 stroke $2500-$9000
80cc-85cc 2 stroke $1200-$2500
125cc-250cc 2 stroke $1200-$2500
Now my recommendations for begginers at the ages of 5-7 is to buy a 50cc bike or a PW-80 these are great bikes, however i prefer the Pw-80 cause it has more power & is a great learning bike! reccomend 4 stroke bikes [however the PW-80 isn't a 4 stroke but, i still recommend it!] by these bike cheap second hand so that if its destroyed u won't have to pay affortune buying then fixing it!
Next u run urself into 80-100cc bikes I again reccomend 4 strokes start with a cheap & old XR-80 or a TTR-100! these cost next to nothing! cause remember if its old & cheap & ur kid destroys it @ least u didn't spend a fortune on it!
ages 8-12! best suttend [optional]
now that ur kid is confident in his abilities & wants to go faster here is were the big racer bikes come in! 2STROKES! these are the fasters & powerful bikes on the market! their also light! buy him a second hand 80-85cc 2 stroke bike! these cost about $1000-$1500!
*Honda are the least tempremental & are the strongest!
*Yamahas are the fastest & give a little trouble!
*Suzuki has the best frame [this is what i ride & they are great] they arn't really temprimental!
*Kawasakis are the slowest of the bunch & but a little less tempremental then the Suzuki!
When Starting out on these 2 stroke bikes u must remember to keep the revulations up that means & lower speeds lower gears!
the lower the gear the better the straktion but higher revs! after about 30min on a track with consecutive gear changes u will start to feel the revs in ur hands & it may numb them! but don't worry the feeling will go away it only means ur body isn't used to the revs yet!
Now when u grow out of that bike sell it & get ur self a 125cc 2 stroke these are much faster then the 80-85cc but arn't to much power!
i currently ride a [race stock] Rm-85cc L [L means big wheel, it only means it has more power then the standard version, yamaha, honda & kawasaki all have the same equivilant!] & i tried my freinds dads YZ-250cc & beleive me the bike is to powerful for a 14-15 year old kid!
Plus the majority of the tracks around the country are standard 125cc tracks which means even thou 250cc bikes ride them it only means that they can do every thing cleanly all beacuse they have all the more power for the track!
250cc 2stroke bikes have a lot of power & most of the tracks around the nation are geared for 125cc bikes so its nice to have a 250cc bike but let ur kid get used to the poower or a 125cc first! otherwise it isn't to much fun!
same rules applie for the 250cc as they do for 125cc or 80-95cc
honda is the stronges
yamaha is the fastes
suzuki has the best springs
& kawasaki is generally the slowers of the bunch but a good all around bike! (however i hear its the best 125cc bike [good to keep in mind]!)
But 1 more thing about motocross that i havn't mendtioned yet!
4Strokes have a little thing called a thumper!
these are generlly a 125cc-450cc 4stroke bike!
a thumper is a racing tearm that means the bike has a lot of power is loud (kinda like jet fighter) or the racing equivelant of a 2 stroke bike!
a 4 stroke class is set differnt from the 2stroke class!
see a 2stroke race is set up all 80/85 bikes race
125 race
& 250 race
well a 4 stroke is a heavier bike cause it has more sprigs batteries & more ussless execeries!
so u take lets say a 125cc 4 stroke vs a 85cc 2stroke!
now thats about the same power!
see a 4 stroke cc divided by 2 is the 2stroke equivelant
125/2 is a 80-85cc 2stoke equivilant
450/2is a 250cc 2stroke equivilant!
now when u compare the 2 bikes all around the 4 stroke has more power up against its same "class" 2 stroke copetitors & has a much faster power band which really helps in corners!
plus they can idle @ low revs while 2 strokes have to stay @ mostly higher revs!
so genneraly it all depends how u ride!
u want power get a 2 stroke!
u want to save money get a 2 stroke!
when i blow a engine on my Rm-85cc it cost me & my dad $85
for the standard 85cc piston [& 0-rings ect.] & about 40 min to fix the bike! the first time u change the piston it may take 1hour but u will eventually cut it down to 30-40min!
now the 125cc 4stroke equivellant! sure u can buy the piston..., & 0-rings & valves & 0-rings ect.
see the 4strokes have more moving parts making it more complicated & down right impossible to fix urself!
unless u are some macanic down & ur local motorcycle shop then don't even try fixing it!
these blow pistong may only come once every 2 years but guess what when they go they cost thousands of dollars to fix!
here are some more details on what u should buy to sutie ur kids needs!
have fun & happy trails.., either on the track or in a forest trail!
begginer motocross riders between the ages of 5-10 should start out with a little bike know as the PW-80!
this is a 2stroke Automatic bike [just let off the gas & swich gears..., no clutch involved] these bikes are great bigginers bikes & i started on 1!
they run from $800-$1000 second hand price
or about $1500-$2000 brand new
if u buy this bike second hand [which i highly recommend] & u give it some new decals & a pain job u will make a profit off it!
if u are still a begginner & are between the ages of 10-12 years old then buy a XR-80!
this is a Honda 4 stroke bike. yes it is may seem like the same cc as a PW-80, but it isn't it is a much bigger & a little more powerful bike!
if u are new to the motocross world or just got sold ur previas 50cc-pw-80 bike then this is the next step!
this bike is a 80cc 4 stroke [change gears with a clutch] and runs about $1000-$1500!
this again was my second bike!
with a new paint job, decals, & low amount of engine work u again will make a nice profit!
Now comes the next step were u need SPEED!
this is were u are feeling confident and speend, u wanna fly then get ur self a 80cc-85cc 2stroke racing bike!
CR-80/Cr-85 (Honda)
YZ-80/Yz-85 (Yamaha)
RM-80/RM85 (Suzuki)
KX-80/Kx-85 (Kawasaki)
now these are the primmary four 13-15 year old kids ride!
these bike can easly fly about 40-60 mph (60mph if u have all race engine)
these bike brand new run about $3000-$4000
or second hand $1000-$1500
the same brands for the 250cc
it depends ir u buy a brand new bike, or a second hand bike!
then are u buy a 2 or a 4 stroke bike!
Brand New Prices (4 stroke/"thumpers)
50cc 4 stroke bikes will run u a good 500$-$1000
80-85 4 strokes bike run $1200-$2500
100cc- 4 strokes will run $2500-$3200
250cc-950cc 4 strokes will run $5000-$15000
Nrand New Prices (2 stroke)
50cc 2 stroke (or pit bikes) run $2500-$3000
80-85cc 2 stroke run $2000-$3500
125cc 2 stroke run $3500-$5000
250cc run anyware from $4500-$7000
second hand bikes:
80cc-85cc 4 strokes $500-$1200
100cc-125cc 4 strokes $1000-$1500
250cc-950cc 4 stroke $2500-$9000
80cc-85cc 2 stroke $1200-$2500
125cc-250cc 2 stroke $1200-$2500
Now my recommendations for begginers at the ages of 5-7 is to buy a 50cc bike or a PW-80 these are great bikes, however i prefer the Pw-80 cause it has more power & is a great learning bike! reccomend 4 stroke bikes [however the PW-80 isn't a 4 stroke but, i still recommend it!] by these bike cheap second hand so that if its destroyed u won't have to pay affortune buying then fixing it!
Next u run urself into 80-100cc bikes I again reccomend 4 strokes start with a cheap & old XR-80 or a TTR-100! these cost next to nothing! cause remember if its old & cheap & ur kid destroys it @ least u didn't spend a fortune on it!
ages 8-12! best suttend [optional]
now that ur kid is confident in his abilities & wants to go faster here is were the big racer bikes come in! 2STROKES! these are the fasters & powerful bikes on the market! their also light! buy him a second hand 80-85cc 2 stroke bike! these cost about $1000-$1500!
*Honda are the least tempremental & are the strongest!
*Yamahas are the fastest & give a little trouble!
*Suzuki has the best frame [this is what i ride & they are great] they arn't really temprimental!
*Kawasakis are the slowest of the bunch & but a little less tempremental then the Suzuki!
When Starting out on these 2 stroke bikes u must remember to keep the revulations up that means & lower speeds lower gears!
the lower the gear the better the straktion but higher revs! after about 30min on a track with consecutive gear changes u will start to feel the revs in ur hands & it may numb them! but don't worry the feeling will go away it only means ur body isn't used to the revs yet!
Now when u grow out of that bike sell it & get ur self a 125cc 2 stroke these are much faster then the 80-85cc but arn't to much power!
i currently ride a [race stock] Rm-85cc L [L means big wheel, it only means it has more power then the standard version, yamaha, honda & kawasaki all have the same equivilant!] & i tried my freinds dads YZ-250cc & beleive me the bike is to powerful for a 14-15 year old kid!
Plus the majority of the tracks around the country are standard 125cc tracks which means even thou 250cc bikes ride them it only means that they can do every thing cleanly all beacuse they have all the more power for the track!
250cc 2stroke bikes have a lot of power & most of the tracks around the nation are geared for 125cc bikes so its nice to have a 250cc bike but let ur kid get used to the poower or a 125cc first! otherwise it isn't to much fun!
same rules applie for the 250cc as they do for 125cc or 80-95cc
honda is the stronges
yamaha is the fastes
suzuki has the best springs
& kawasaki is generally the slowers of the bunch but a good all around bike! (however i hear its the best 125cc bike [good to keep in mind]!)
But 1 more thing about motocross that i havn't mendtioned yet!
4Strokes have a little thing called a thumper!
these are generlly a 125cc-450cc 4stroke bike!
a thumper is a racing tearm that means the bike has a lot of power is loud (kinda like jet fighter) or the racing equivelant of a 2 stroke bike!
a 4 stroke class is set differnt from the 2stroke class!
see a 2stroke race is set up all 80/85 bikes race
125 race
& 250 race
well a 4 stroke is a heavier bike cause it has more sprigs batteries & more ussless execeries!
so u take lets say a 125cc 4 stroke vs a 85cc 2stroke!
now thats about the same power!
see a 4 stroke cc divided by 2 is the 2stroke equivelant
125/2 is a 80-85cc 2stoke equivilant
450/2is a 250cc 2stroke equivilant!
now when u compare the 2 bikes all around the 4 stroke has more power up against its same "class" 2 stroke copetitors & has a much faster power band which really helps in corners!
plus they can idle @ low revs while 2 strokes have to stay @ mostly higher revs!
so genneraly it all depends how u ride!
u want power get a 2 stroke!
u want to save money get a 2 stroke!
when i blow a engine on my Rm-85cc it cost me & my dad $85
for the standard 85cc piston [& 0-rings ect.] & about 40 min to fix the bike! the first time u change the piston it may take 1hour but u will eventually cut it down to 30-40min!
now the 125cc 4stroke equivellant! sure u can buy the piston..., & 0-rings & valves & 0-rings ect.
see the 4strokes have more moving parts making it more complicated & down right impossible to fix urself!
unless u are some macanic down & ur local motorcycle shop then don't even try fixing it!
these blow pistong may only come once every 2 years but guess what when they go they cost thousands of dollars to fix!
here are some more details on what u should buy to sutie ur kids needs!
have fun & happy trails.., either on the track or in a forest trail!
begginer motocross riders between the ages of 5-10 should start out with a little bike know as the PW-80!
this is a 2stroke Automatic bike [just let off the gas & swich gears..., no clutch involved] these bikes are great bigginers bikes & i started on 1!
they run from $800-$1000 second hand price
or about $1500-$2000 brand new
if u buy this bike second hand [which i highly recommend] & u give it some new decals & a pain job u will make a profit off it!
if u are still a begginner & are between the ages of 10-12 years old then buy a XR-80!
this is a Honda 4 stroke bike. yes it is may seem like the same cc as a PW-80, but it isn't it is a much bigger & a little more powerful bike!
if u are new to the motocross world or just got sold ur previas 50cc-pw-80 bike then this is the next step!
this bike is a 80cc 4 stroke [change gears with a clutch] and runs about $1000-$1500!
this again was my second bike!
with a new paint job, decals, & low amount of engine work u again will make a nice profit!
Now comes the next step were u need SPEED!
this is were u are feeling confident and speend, u wanna fly then get ur self a 80cc-85cc 2stroke racing bike!
CR-80/Cr-85 (Honda)
YZ-80/Yz-85 (Yamaha)
RM-80/RM85 (Suzuki)
KX-80/Kx-85 (Kawasaki)
now these are the primmary four 13-15 year old kids ride!
these bike can easly fly about 40-60 mph (60mph if u have all race engine)
these bike brand new run about $3000-$4000
or second hand $1000-$1500
the same brands for the 250cc
Suggestions for a CHEAP hybrid bike?
I haven't ridden a bike since I was a kid but I want to start riding a bike to get in shape. What are some suggestions for a good, but cheap Hybrid bike from Wal-mart or Target? I want to be able to ride on the gravel trails around here, but not off-road, so I don't want a mountain bike. Any other suggestions are welcome. Thanks.
Answer
For riding on gravel trails, the hybrid bike is a good choice. It's got bigger wheels like a road bike and a more upright position. It also has mountain bike style gearing in case you run into hills. I own a hybrid for just that purpose and it works very well.
Don't go to WalMart or Target. The bikes they sell are one size fits all, are heavy, don't work very well, and don't last very long. Your local bike shop will have bikes at the low end of the price range, probably starting around $250 to $350. Brands don't matter. Bikes that cost the same are usually built the same and have the same components. Unlike the WalMart, a bike shop will have bikes that fit you. They know how to properly assemble them. You will be much more comfortable and much safer.
Above all, save enough money for a helmet. Don't put your butt on the seat without a helmet on your head.
HTH
For riding on gravel trails, the hybrid bike is a good choice. It's got bigger wheels like a road bike and a more upright position. It also has mountain bike style gearing in case you run into hills. I own a hybrid for just that purpose and it works very well.
Don't go to WalMart or Target. The bikes they sell are one size fits all, are heavy, don't work very well, and don't last very long. Your local bike shop will have bikes at the low end of the price range, probably starting around $250 to $350. Brands don't matter. Bikes that cost the same are usually built the same and have the same components. Unlike the WalMart, a bike shop will have bikes that fit you. They know how to properly assemble them. You will be much more comfortable and much safer.
Above all, save enough money for a helmet. Don't put your butt on the seat without a helmet on your head.
HTH
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